Which Compiler?

Posted: 2004-12-22 6:46:00

java-programmer, Which Compiler? Hi. Is there another good free compiler (besides the JDK) that is
recommended? I would like to hear from those who have used it if there
is. Thanks, Steve

Posted: 2004-12-22 6:55:00

java-programmer >> Which Compiler? Hi. Is there another good free compiler (besides the JDK) that is
recommended? I would like to hear from those who have used it if there
is. Thanks, Steve

Posted: 2004-12-22 6:56:00

java-programmer >> Which Compiler? smitsky wrote:
> Hi. Is there another good free compiler (besides the JDK) that is
> recommended? I would like to hear from those who have used it if there
> is. Thanks, Steve
>

jikes from IBM research labs.

Posted: 2004-12-22 11:45:00

java-programmer >> Which Compiler? > jikes from IBM research labs.

Thanks Kartik. Have you ever used it? If using the JDK in a Windows
environment, which editor would you recommend? Thanks again, Steve

Posted: 2004-12-22 12:07:00

java-programmer >> Which Compiler? On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:44:30 GMT, Smitsky wrote:

> If using the JDK in a Windows
> environment, which editor would you recommend?

TextPad. Of scourse, that advice might be different depending
on the requirements you have not stated.

Requirements such as..
What system/RAM do you have? Lots?
Do you require autocomplete?
Do you require integrated WAR deployment?
Does this editor need to have an inbuilt debugger?
...

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Posted: 2004-12-22 12:27:00

java-programmer >> Which Compiler? Hi Andrew.

> What system/RAM do you have? Lots?

Windows XP / 512 MB

> Do you require autocomplete?

It would be nice.

> Do you require integrated WAR deployment?

I'm not familiar with this.

> Does this editor need to have an inbuilt debugger?

Would be nice too. Thanx, Steve

Posted: 2004-12-22 13:33:00

java-programmer >> Which Compiler? On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:26:56 GMT, Smitsky wrote:

> Hi Andrew.

Generally personal greetings are discouraged, since you are
not so much writing to me as writing to the 'eternal scroll'.
Also, they have the tendecny to make people ..pause, before
they reply, as I did when I went to answer your first reply.

>> What system/RAM do you have? Lots?
>
> Windows XP / 512 MB

I have the same, with an Athlon 1.8GHz CPU, and find some
of the the standard recommended editors too slow. Especially
Netbeans, but also Eclipse to a lesser extent.

I have not had enough experience with JBuilder, Emacs or
IntelliJ (other editors regularly recommended) to comment.

>> Do you require autocomplete?
>
> It would be nice.
>
>> Do you require integrated WAR deployment?
>
> I'm not familiar with this.

I was really fishing to find out if you had lots of arcane
requirements for the editor. This tells me - no.

>> Does this editor need to have an inbuilt debugger?
>
> Would be nice too.

(shrugs) 'Would be nice' is not something I would consider a
*requirement*, so I'll stick with my earlier advice - 'TextPad'.

It is a lightweight editor with *none* of the above. It merely
colors keywords (which I find preferable to autocomplete) and
allows you to compile and run from within the editor.

Others will almost certainly disagree with me. ;-)

Now.. before I lose you attention, I am curious about one aspect
of your original question. Why did you want a compiler that was
*not* Sun's?

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Posted: 2004-12-22 14:24:00

java-programmer >> Which Compiler? On 21 Dec 2004 14:45:32 -0800
"smitsky" <email***@***.com> wrote:

> Hi. Is there another good free compiler (besides the JDK) that is
> recommended? I would like to hear from those who have used it if there
> is.

The eclipse-compiler also is quite good, with has the advantage that
other plugins can directly hook into it. That said any
java-implementation can work. (Kafee and so on). I usually use eclipse
for my development.

--
In pioneer days they used oxen for heavy pulling, and when one ox
couldn't budge a log, they didn't try to grow a larger ox. We shouldn't
be trying for bigger computers, but for more systems of computers.
--- Rear Admiral Grace Murray Hopper

Posted: 2004-12-22 14:54:00

java-programmer >> Which Compiler?
> It is a lightweight editor with *none* of the above. It merely
> colors keywords (which I find preferable to autocomplete) and
> allows you to compile and run from within the editor.
>
> Others will almost certainly disagree with me. ;-)

Please allow me to disagree here! :)
keyword coloring is nice, but autocomplete is essential if you work in a
production environment and want to be productive.
i can't imagine myself coding without autocomplete.
without it, you will have to keep jumping between your editor and the API.
Netbeans can even show the API documentation next to the autocomplete
window, which is also very helpful, and saves a lot of time.

just my 0.5 cent
hilz

Posted: 2004-12-22 15:44:00

java-programmer >> Which Compiler? On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:54:00 -0500, hilz wrote:

> Netbeans can even show the API documentation next to the autocomplete
> window,

I can't quite recall, is there space in there for a window
with the Java source code? ;-)

>...which is also very helpful, and saves a lot of time.

Alt tab 'll take you to the browser with Javadocs,
saves screen acreage.

Of course, YMMV. I think it ultimately depends on the coding style,
habits (good and bad) and personality of the individual developer.

[ ..ahhh, IDE discussions, I should steer clear of them! ]

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Posted: 2004-12-22 18:15:00

java-programmer >> Which Compiler? smitsky wrote:
> Hi. Is there another good free compiler (besides the JDK) that is
> recommended? I would like to hear from those who have used it if there
> is.

Apart from being a free minded rebel, why wouldn't you use
the JDK compiler, at least until you had a good reason not to?

BugBear

Posted: 2004-12-22 18:58:00

java-programmer >> Which Compiler? Andrew Thompson wrote on 22.12.2004 08:43:
>>Netbeans can even show the API documentation next to the autocomplete
>>window,
>
> I can't quite recall, is there space in there for a window
> with the Java source code? ;-)

Full screen editor is a doubleclick (or a keystroke) away, apart from that
with a 1280x1024 I don't feel like having not enough editor space...

Thomas

Posted: 2004-12-22 19:52:00

java-programmer >> Which Compiler? On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:58:17 +0100, Thomas Kellerer wrote:

> Andrew Thompson wrote on 22.12.2004 08:43:
>>>Netbeans can even show the API documentation next to the autocomplete
>>>window,
>>
>> I can't quite recall, is there space in there for a window
>> with the Java source code? ;-)
>
> Full screen editor is a doubleclick (or a keystroke) away, apart from that
> with a 1280x1024

You lucky thing, though I hear even that is becoming 'old hat'.

My monitor can go to res higher than 800x600, but the display
becomes quite ..odd. So for the moment I stick to 800x600.

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Posted: 2004-12-22 20:03:00

java-programmer >> Which Compiler? >>Why did you want a compiler that was *not* Sun's?

Just interested to see if there was one perferred.

Example:

A lot of folks recommend Dev-C++ over MSVC++ 6.0 because it is more
standards compliant

...something along those lines.

Posted: 2004-12-22 20:36:00

java-programmer >> Which Compiler? On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:03:01 GMT, Smitsky wrote:

>>>Why did you want a compiler that was *not* Sun's?
>
> Just interested to see if there was one perferred.
>
> Example:
>
> A lot of folks recommend Dev-C++ over MSVC++ 6.0 because it is more
> standards compliant

A lot of folks recommend other things over the MS equivalent
for much the same reason, but when it comes to Java, Sun *is*
the standard. Sun write Java.

I'm sure there are other good compilers and RE's out there,
but unless you have a specific and arcane need, I would stick
to the ones that have the largest user/knowledge base.

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Posted: 2004-12-30 0:11:00

java-programmer >> Which Compiler?
"Smitsky" <email***@***.com> wrote in message
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> >>Why did you want a compiler that was *not* Sun's?
>
> Just interested to see if there was one perferred.
>
> Example:
>
> A lot of folks recommend Dev-C++ over MSVC++ 6.0 because it is more
> standards compliant
>
> ...something along those lines.

Well along those lines, you should use the Sun compiler.

Posted: 2004-12-30 3:47:00

java-programmer >> Which Compiler?
"Andrew Thompson" <email***@***.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:03:01 GMT, Smitsky wrote:
>
> >>>Why did you want a compiler that was *not* Sun's?
> >
> > Just interested to see if there was one perferred.
> >
> > Example:
> >
> > A lot of folks recommend Dev-C++ over MSVC++ 6.0 because it is more
> > standards compliant
>
> A lot of folks recommend other things over the MS equivalent
> for much the same reason, but when it comes to Java, Sun *is*
> the standard. Sun write Java.

Cows drink milk, cows MAKE milk !

>
> I'm sure there are other good compilers and RE's out there,
> but unless you have a specific and arcane need, I would stick
> to the ones that have the largest user/knowledge base.
>
> --
> Andrew Thompson
> http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help
> http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite
> http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology
> http://www.LensEscapes.com/ Images that escape the mundane

java-programmer >> Which Compiler? Hi,

I want to start making flash applications but i have no idea which
software is best to do it with.

I am making a website with learnig aids for engineering students which
have easy-to use visual interfaces in flash.

For example, imagine the student was analysing a truss structure like
a bridge or a crane. They could draw the beams between points, and the
analysis would be done in something like C++, with the calculation
steps shown again in flash