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- Reading from URLConnection stops at JavaScript alert callHi all,
when I post form content to a server (HTTPS protocol) using a
URLConnection and then reading the servers response using a
BufferedReader, the reader seems to stop just before reading the code
for a JavaScript alert. The code for reading the response looks like
this:
in = new BufferedReader(
new InputStreamReader(connection.getInputStream()));
stbResult = new StringBuffer(5000);
while ((sResult = in.readLine()) != null) {
stbResult.append(sResult);
}
When accessing the same site with a browser a dialog pops up at the
crucial point. After clicking away the alert the rest of the HTML page
gets loaded by the browser.
When looking at the code of the HTML page later on, I can see that the
response read by my java app ended just before the JavaScript code:
<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">alert("xyz");</SCRIPT>
I need to read in the whole page including the alert message. How can
I get my java app to read in the JavaScript code within the HTML page
(no problem occured with the JavaScript code in the header) and the
remaining HTML code?
Thanks for thinking about this one!
Ralf
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- jsp - fetching fresh inserted data - reload issue?hi ng,
i have a form, where a user can input some data.
after pressing submit, the controller.jsp makes some
validations and shall list up this new entry.
in short, my problem is, that this newest entry is
not shown - but is correctly inserted into the db.
+ form.jsp : holds the form
+ controller.jsp : inserts form data into db,
and queries the db to show the newest entry.
after refreshing the site by hand, the newest entry
is listed, BUT also in the db (duplicate in db!).
i tried some java script solutions, top.mainFrame.location.reload()
and adding some META-TAG in the HEAD-Tag of HTML, but no
effects...
feedback is appreciated, thanks in advance.
with regards,
jonas
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- edit jtable with enteri am having a problem with jtable which i was unable to solve for a
last couple a days. i think there needs to be much more docs on some
tricky uses of jtable than basic JTable/TableModel usage. so far i
managed to move to the next cell when i press enter (right hand side,
instead of moving down).
i'd like to start editing in the next cell after moving from previous
cell. so, if i was in editing mode in some cell, enter should bring me
to the next cell with caret blinking in it. of course, if i wasn't
editing some cell i don't want to edit next cell.
basicly, i want to make "row edit session", for example user starts
editing a cell with f2, and as long as he press enter he edits next
cell, until he reaches the end of the row and then changes are
commited to database, just like M$Access and SQLserver does. i think i
can do this myself, all i need is little help to start edit next cell
if user moves from previous cell. i checked BasicTableUI source, and
as i see i should get the editor component and request focus on it.
but i am stuck with that.
thanks!
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- Sun's WTK2.5 is asking for permission to contact network every timeI've just started using the final release of Sun's wireless toolkit
(WTK) 2.5. It's asking for permission to contact the network each and
every time network access happens - I'd like to switch it to asking only
once times (or never, if possible), but can't find the option in the
docs or via the tools in WTK2.5/bin. Can anyone shed any light on this?
thanks,
lex
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- policy file in eclipse.Hello.
How can I declare in Eclipse the policy file (like policy.all : I don't know
if that's matter, but I have version 3.3) ?
Thanks :)
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- Unc path on IntellijHi
Is there a I can add unc path when ading Jar/Directory to Module
Libraries on Intellij ?
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- Struts & JSTL <c:out>Greetings:
Relative newcomer to Struts and JSTL. My question is about using
<c:out>, pageContext, and request.
My experience has been doing to following in an appropriate action
class. Setting an object as an attribute of the request in the execute
method of the Action Class:
request.setAttribute("object1", Obj1);
Then in the corresponding JSP, pulling the object off the request and
casting it for use:
<% Obj1 local_Obj1 = (Obj1)request.getAttribute("object1");
Then being able to use dot notation to access methods of Obj1.
My question is that with JSTL <c:out> the object needs to be on the
pageContext. Do I need to explicitly set this? If so where? How does
this tag work in this situation?
Any help on the matter is greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Tim Morrissey
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- web page and image processingHello,
I need to do the following. Given an URL I need to produce a thumbnail
of the webpage. If you did something similar in the past, can you
please give me some pointers?
Thank you,
Nadina
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- Announce: A new open source O/R mapping toolAnnounce:
Molly DBO: A new open-source O/R mapping tool is out.
There are many such programs out there. But this one is very
special because it's simple (no xml configuration, yay !) and has
been tested with postgres and mysql. This tool has been used
extensively in production enviroments so the generated code has
most bugs squeezed out by now.
You can check it out at:
http://www.mollypages.org/dbo/
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- Strange problem!!(it is, atleast to me!!)Although, this is not a programming or development problem instead its
an end user problem which im facing and thought programmers /
developers could help.
I have Win XP SP2, JRE 1.5 installed with IE. Now for certain sites my
applets dont refresh after i click them (well ofcourse i click where a
click is expected :) this happens when i connect using my cable
broadband connection.
(I am connected to a local provider via LAN who provides me connection
to the primary ISP). On the other hand evrything works as expected
when i use dial up connection(using the phone line). Ive tried with
many browsers and it doesn work. Ive tried everything i could. And the
same site works well at my frnds place who has the same broadband ISP
but hes on a different LAN and rest all settings are the same.
The error i see on the console- " java.lang.NullpointerException Could
not send message".
I know the error wouldn be of much use but hope the explanation of the
problem may have some solutions.
Kindly help me.
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- Beginner, this will be a quick fix, so please check it out!!Hi, extreme noob here (less than one week of Java exerience, or any
programming exp)
This program i am writing from a book is suppose to ask the question
"How many gumballs? How mand kids? " , and then allow the user to
input the 2 answers. for example : 80 4
but it doesn't ask that question, it just answers without asking! any
help... ? this is from the Beginner Programming with Java for Dummies
- 2nd Edition. I typed it straight out of the book, and checked it
vary carefully. the output im currently gettins is... "Each kid gets 6
gumballs"
import java.util.Scanner;
class KeepingMoreKidsQuiet {
public static void main(String args[]) {
Scanner myScanner = new Scanner(System.in);
int gumballs;
int kids;
int gumballsPerKid;
System.out.print("How many gumballs? How many kids? ");
gumballs = myScanner.nextInt();
kids = myScanner.nextInt();
gumballsPerKid = gumballs / kids;
System.out.print("Each kid gets ");
System.out.print(gumballsPerKid);
System.out.println(" gumballs.");
}
}
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- A question about Java ThreadI see a code like this:
in a Thread:
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public void run() {
Thread currentThread = Thread.currentThread();
while (thread == currentThread) {
try {
repaint();
thread.sleep(100);
}
catch (InterruptedException ex) {
}
}
}
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what's the "while (thread == currentThread) " codes mean?
what is it used for?
Thank you in advance.
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- Log4J problemHi everyone,
Consider the following piece of code:
Logger mylogger = Logger.getLogger(Log4JFileDeletionTest.class);
public Log4JFileDeletionTest() throws Exception
{
FileAppender fapp = new FileAppender(new
XMLLayout(),"/tmp/Log4JFileDeletionTest.log",true);
mylogger.setLevel(Level.DEBUG);
mylogger.addAppender(fapp);
mylogger.info("This is a test log");
Thread.sleep(7000);
mylogger.info("This is after deleting the file");
}
If during the Sleep(), I delete the log file, then none of the
subsequent log statements re-create the file. It remains deleted, no
exceptions get thrown and all the logs are lost.
Is there any solution to this, other than modifying the log4J code ?
Thanks in advance.
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- Porting C++ Template to Java GenericI've run into a road block with porting some C++ code that makes use
of templates to Java. In it, there is a main class I'll call A that
is a template class:
// C++
template <class T> class A
public:
virtual T Evaluate() const = 0;
};
Other classes extend this class:
// C++
template <class T> class B : public A<T> {
public:
B(const T &v) { value = v; }
T Evaluate() const { return value; }
private:
T value;
};
Now all of this is easy to implement in Java using Generic
programing. The issue I'm having is when I try to implement code like
this:
template <class T1, class T2> class C : public A<T2> {
public:
C(A<T1> a, A<T2> b) { t1 = a; t2 = b; }
T2 Evaluate() {
return t1->Evaluate() * t2->Evaluate();
}
private:
A<T1> t1;
A<T2> t2;
};
Java complains about about the * operator being undefined for
arguments T1, T2; Since Java doesn't have operator overloading, I
can't really see how to implement the same functionality. Has anyone
ever encountered this type of problem, or can anyone see a way around
this issue?
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Airy R Bean
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java-programmer, How Robots Will Steal Your Job
Humour. Lost on you?
CyberLegend aka Jure Sah <email***@***.com> wrote in message
news:email***@***.com...
> Airy R Bean wrote:
> > Are owls more intelligent than chickens?
> > Have you ever seen a shop selling Kentucky Fried Owl?
> As a mater of fact I have never seen a shop selling Kentucky Fried
> Chicken. I don't live in the USA.
> It would be curious to know what your point was tho.
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Airy R Bean
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Humour. Lost on you?
CyberLegend aka Jure Sah <email***@***.com> wrote in message
news:email***@***.com...
> Airy R Bean wrote:
> > Are owls more intelligent than chickens?
> > Have you ever seen a shop selling Kentucky Fried Owl?
> As a mater of fact I have never seen a shop selling Kentucky Fried
> Chicken. I don't live in the USA.
> It would be curious to know what your point was tho.
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softeng3456
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| Posted: 2003-8-30 2:21:00 |
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"R. Steve Walz" <email***@***.com> wrote in message news:<email***@***.com>...
> Roedy Green wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:42:57 +0200, Hans-Georg Michna
> > <email***@***.com> wrote or quoted :
> >
> > >I'm pretty convinced that insects are about as conscious as some
> > >machines.
> >
> > If consciousness is a quantum phenomenon,
> ----------
> A fallacious notion from the world of NON-physicists.
>
> -Steve
If you take out the "NON-" part, the quote is accurate.
The "consciousness" connotations in Quantum Physics go all
the way back to master politician Bohr in Copenhagen.
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softeng3456
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| Posted: 2003-8-30 2:28:00 |
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Programmer Dude <email***@***.com> wrote in message news:<email***@***.com>...
> Indeed. I don't assume mechanical sentience is possible. It may
> well be--and if it is, someday we'll find that out--but my opinion
> right now is that it may not be.
Of course not. Why would a machine need "sentience", a concept
carefully formulated for the purpose of justifying (i.e. satisfying
internal psychological inconsistencies involved in) the killing
and eating of animals?
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bcd
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| Posted: 2003-8-30 4:49:00 |
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java-programmer >> How Robots Will Steal Your Job
In article <email***@***.com>,
>
>I would say due to the point evolution makes: We've all been evolving
>for the same amount of time, humans cannot be said to be in any way
>supperior to dogs.
Evolution doesn't guarantee that two different species achieve the
same "adapted"ness within the same amount of time. Evolution tends
towards local maxima and we may very well have hit upon a better local
maximum than what dogs have.
Cheers
Bent D
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bcd
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| Posted: 2003-8-30 4:52:00 |
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In article <email***@***.com>,
soft-eng <email***@***.com> wrote:
>
>Of course not. Why would a machine need "sentience", a concept
>carefully formulated for the purpose of justifying (i.e. satisfying
>internal psychological inconsistencies involved in) the killing
>and eating of animals?
I doubt we need any excuse at all for eating things (I certainly
don't). The theory of sentience sounds a lot more like something we
could use to _avoid_ eating some things if we find out they're
sentient.
And I expect a lot of people would still need a good bit of
convincing.
Cheers
Bent D
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Bent Dalager - email***@***.com - http://www.pvv.org/~bcd
powered by emacs
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R. Steve Walz
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| Posted: 2003-8-30 12:37:00 |
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Roedy Green wrote:
>
> On 28 Aug 2003 20:27:40 -0700, email***@***.com (James A. Donald)
> wrote or quoted :
>
> >Biological systems have been selected for robustness, but when
> >we try to design for robustness, it is difficult.
>
> There is a guy who builds little robots, using biological principles.
> He discovered they use far less electronics, and when they fail, they
> fail gracefully, gradually losing capability, rather than coming to a
> dead stop the way most computer programs do.
> Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
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You're blathering about Mark Tilden, and he has dug himself into a
hole at Los Alamos and can't get out. He has been fooling the govt
into believing he has been doing groudbreaking work when he is
actually revisiting 70 year old patents for pinball machine circuits.
He propagates the myth that little robot toys which have a few simple
emergent properties, and which include random RC timing loop circuits,
are somehow transcendant of processor technology, and that's been
shown to be dead-end crap. I think he is now being investigated by
the OMB.
-Steve
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-Steve Walz email***@***.com ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/rstevew
Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
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R. Steve Walz
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| Posted: 2003-8-30 12:56:00 |
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soft-eng wrote:
>
> "R. Steve Walz" <email***@***.com> wrote in message news:<email***@***.com>...
> > Roedy Green wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:42:57 +0200, Hans-Georg Michna
> > > <email***@***.com> wrote or quoted :
> > >
> > > >I'm pretty convinced that insects are about as conscious as some
> > > >machines.
> > >
> > > If consciousness is a quantum phenomenon,
> > ----------
> > A fallacious notion from the world of NON-physicists.
> >
> > -Steve
>
> If you take out the "NON-" part, the quote is accurate.
> The "consciousness" connotations in Quantum Physics go all
> the way back to master politician Bohr in Copenhagen.
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It was blather when he said it, (probably drunk), and it's blather now.
-Steve
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-Steve Walz email***@***.com ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/rstevew
Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
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R. Steve Walz
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soft-eng wrote:
>
> "R. Steve Walz" <email***@***.com> wrote in message news:<email***@***.com>...
> > Roedy Green wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:42:57 +0200, Hans-Georg Michna
> > > <email***@***.com> wrote or quoted :
> > >
> > > >I'm pretty convinced that insects are about as conscious as some
> > > >machines.
> > >
> > > If consciousness is a quantum phenomenon,
> > ----------
> > A fallacious notion from the world of NON-physicists.
> >
> > -Steve
>
> If you take out the "NON-" part, the quote is accurate.
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Nope, I know better, I "are" one.
-Steve
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| Posted: 2003-8-30 13:09:00 |
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Roedy Green wrote:
>
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 04:37:17 GMT, "R. Steve Walz" <email***@***.com>
> wrote or quoted :
>
> >You're blathering about Mark Tilden,
>
> The guy I am referring to made no such elaborate claims, at least not
> in the clip I saw of his little beasts. It would have been on some
> video I got at the library. Sorry I can't be more specific.
> --
> Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
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I have all such videos, he's the only one with that side-show.
-Steve
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R. Steve Walz
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| Posted: 2003-8-30 13:55:00 |
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Bent C Dalager wrote:
>
> In article <email***@***.com>,
> R. Steve Walz <email***@***.com> wrote:
> >That's not up to us, we developed speech BECAUSE we were intelligent!
> >They must do so also.
>
> A lot of animals communicate with one another. None of them have come
> up with a cross-species language (that we know), but then, neither
> have we.
>
> Your criteria for accepting something not human as being intelligent
> is that it should be a lot more intelligent than we are to even be
> considered?
>
> Cheers
> Bent D
> --
> Bent Dalager - email***@***.com - http://www.pvv.org/~bcd
> powered by emacs
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Only a chipmunk only speaks chipmunk. Humans can speak anything that
matters. They need only learn, but they can't learn chipmunk because
it doesn't say anything they don't already know.
-Steve
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Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
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Corey Murtagh
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| Posted: 2003-8-30 15:19:00 |
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R. Steve Walz wrote:
> Bent C Dalager wrote:
>
>>In article <email***@***.com>,
>>R. Steve Walz <email***@***.com> wrote:
>>
>>>That's not up to us, we developed speech BECAUSE we were intelligent!
>>>They must do so also.
>>
>>A lot of animals communicate with one another. None of them have come
>>up with a cross-species language (that we know), but then, neither
>>have we.
>>
>>Your criteria for accepting something not human as being intelligent
>>is that it should be a lot more intelligent than we are to even be
>>considered?
>>
>>Cheers
>> Bent D
>>--
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>> powered by emacs
> --------------------------
> Only a chipmunk only speaks chipmunk. Humans can speak anything that
> matters. They need only learn, but they can't learn chipmunk because
> it doesn't say anything they don't already know.
This is a totally humanocentric pile of bullshit, not to mention being
logically invalid. Humans can speak a handful of languages, most of
which are related to one of about 5 or 6 roots. Learning a new language
requires assistance from someone who knows the other language, and
preferably knows yours as well. It takes a /very/ long time for two
people with no common language between them to learn each other's language.
Several years ago, during the height of the space craze, a number of
attempts were made to create a system to initiate communication with an
intelligent creature with no familiar language. Lots of linguists
devoted insane amounts of effort, and they eventually came up with a
system that all agreed was very good. Until they tested it. The test
subjects had no common root languages with the testers, were judged to
be of high intelligence, and yet several weeks passed without a single
advancement in communication. From memory the whole project was dropped
at that point, since if it couldn't be used to communicate with an
intelligent subject who was so similar to the testers in every respect
other than language, then what hope did the system have of working with
an intelligent being with a potentially /very/ different mental structure?
But then from what you've already said, if it can't come and make itself
intelligible to /us/, then you don't class it as intelligent.
All you've proved so far is that you mind is more closed than Fort Knox.
--
Corey Murtagh
The Electric Monk
"Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur!"
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R. Steve Walz
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CyberLegend aka Jure Sah wrote:
>
> "R. Steve Walz" wrote:
> > > > We are here and know we are here, and animals don't.
> > >
> > > Hmm. Interesting assertion, but you'll need to do more than just state
> > > an opinion as if it were fact. Can you communicate with animals?
> > ------------------
> > We're in charge
>
> Better: You THINK you're in charge. Most social animals still devolop
> their normal society within the human oppression, what I laugh at most
> however, is a human calling him self the leader of a pack of dogs that
> he claims possesion of.
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Then we eat the dogs and make you the fool.
> > and kill them. If they were intelligence they would:
> > 1) resent that, 2) try to convince us not to eat them. They don't.
>
> Basicaly, if you take your dog, with whom you've spent your entire life
> and inflict a wound on him that will not be directly leathal, the resent
> will be noticed. And if you do that in a pack of dogs, the other
> membmers will assure you they realise what you have done (if it's not
> the Alpha you've killed).
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They will kill each other trying to get away, or take over as alpha.
> BTW, personaly, I don't belive pray animals deserve to be called
> particulary intelligent tho. But then again, humans ARE pray animals.
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Were, that was a LONG time ago.
> > > Assuming you could communicate with an animal, and that it fully
> > > understood the question, exactly how would it answer "Do you exist?"
> > ------------------
> > It need not know the word yes, but:
> > It would have to be obviously frantic to inform us, knowing what we
> > might do since we are in control, and then make every effort to
> > symbolically communicate. If it can't, then it doesn't exist. Symbols
> > are part and parcel of what we mean by awareness. In other words it
> > better take up a stick and start scratching in the dirt and making
> > sense.
>
> Hmm. When I look at a dog and the dog looks back at me and we run allong
> a cupple of meters, keeping a steady distance between the two of us, the
> symbol communication system in my brain generates that magical gut
> feeling that we understand each other, that system signals to the other
> systems in my brain, one of which logicaly conclude that that constant
> checking on eachother and the fact that we are both carefully keeping a
> constant maximum range between us must mean that we both exist.
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That dog's advanced existence, and your own, is all in your mind.
> Natural leanguage is equaly extrasensioary.
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You mean imaginary.
> > > If it understands the question, then it can only answer "Yes."
> > >
> > > What if you were to ask a Frenchman if he existed? If he doesn't speak
> > > English, the chances are he'd say something like "Quoi? Je ne comprend
> > > pas. O?est le th?" So are French people who don't speak English
> > > self-aware or not?
> > -----------------------
> > Disingenuous, they are using symbolic methods.
>
> So are most animals. Are you faceblind or something?
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Heck no, I like Teddy Bears, myself. I can't stand to hurt them.
> > > Self-awareness of computers is another interesting question. Are they?
> > > If so, are we committing ratiocinicide when we turn them off? How
> > > will we know they are self-aware until they can tell us?
> > --------------------
> > No entity is a being and has a right to life until and unless they
> > are bright enough to demand those rights in a manner that any other
> > such being can understand. That means symbolically.
> >
> > They AREN'T till they make the effort! Nothing IS alive or DESERVES
> > the assumption that it IS alive, until it can demand that it be
> > respected! Until they can do that, they are FOOD!!
>
> So... are you saying every Omega wolf in a given wolfpack is not actualy
> alive?
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No, that NONE are. Wolves aren't.
-Steve
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seebs
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| Posted: 2003-8-30 16:46:00 |
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In article <email***@***.com>,
Airy R Bean <email***@***.com> wrote:
>The people who should, perhaps, "quit it" are those who have
>an alternative agenda about posting styles; an agenda that is
>irrelevant to this NG in particular and to Usenet in general,
>and who try to masquerade their emotional intolerance as
>another cause.
Agreement on posting styles (for instance, the obvious wrongness of
top-posting) is fundamental to usenet. No structure for communication,
no communication.
-s
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http://www.seebs.net/log/ - YA blog. http://www.seebs.net/ - homepage.
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bcd
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| Posted: 2003-8-30 17:48:00 |
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In article <3f50642d$0$1098$email***@***.com>,
Seebs <email***@***.com> wrote:
>
>Agreement on posting styles (for instance, the obvious wrongness of
>top-posting) is fundamental to usenet. No structure for communication,
>no communication.
As far as I'm concerned, there are two separate Usenets. One in which
participants respect eachother enough to make an effort to make their
posts legible to their readers. And another in which posters couldn't
care less about their readers and so top-post and mass-quote with gay
abandon, leaving it to the readers to decipher the resulting mess. I
only participate in the former and have a highly honed delete-key
reflex to deal with the latter :-)
Cheers
Bent D
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powered by emacs
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R. Steve Walz
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| Posted: 2003-8-30 17:57:00 |
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Roedy Green wrote:
>
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 05:08:46 GMT, "R. Steve Walz" <email***@***.com>
> wrote or quoted :
>
> >> >You're blathering about Mark Tilden,
>
> blather means "loquacious nonsense"
------------
Yes, and?
> I think my report was accurate, even if you discredit the guy's work.
------------
Many do.
> I do run on often, but I think I described that succinctly.
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Sure, but you repeated his own lies.
> Are you aware of the term "gratuitous insult"?
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Oh yes, I like giving them very much.
-Steve
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| Posted: 2003-8-30 17:59:00 |
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Bent C Dalager wrote:
> As far as I'm concerned, there are two separate Usenets[...]
Nicely put.
-- chris
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| Posted: 2003-8-30 18:10:00 |
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Roedy Green wrote:
>
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:32:26 -0500, Programmer Dude
> <email***@***.com> wrote or quoted :
>
> >> There should be a discontinuity in anatomy.
>
> there IS a discontinuity in anatomy.
>
> The human brain is made of three parts, sometimes called the
> reptitilian brain, the mammalian brain and the rational brain.
>
> Reptiles have only the reptilian part. It deals with basic survival
> like respiration and eating.
>
> Mammals have the reptilian part and the mammalian part. One thing the
> mammalian brain handles is emotions.
>
> Then there is the rational brain that handles things like deductive
> reasoning.
>
> Some psychological troubles can be traced to the imperfect integration
> of the three. They can be at odds.
>
> If you use that is your discrimination of value or intelligence, you
> run in to a problem. Elephants and whales have much larger rational
> brains that humans do.
>
> Those tarred with religious-induced species chauvinism argue their
> larger brains do not count because these animals have bigger bodies.
>
> This is invalid on three grounds.
>
> 1. Whales have no more complex musculature than humans.
>
> 2. the fine control of musculature is not done by the rational brain.
>
> 3. brontosauri managed to control humongous bodies with brains smaller
> than a walnut.
> Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
------------
All that is nice, but where are their efforts to communicate?
Where are their artifices.
If we can kill them, they can't be brighter than we are, that
would be stupid by definition.
Brain weight is not as important as brain structure.
Who says the cortex has to be used for deduction, it may only be
needed for spatial interpretation of sound in cetaceans?
-Steve
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R. Steve Walz
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Roedy Green wrote:
>
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:49:00 GMT, Roedy Green <email***@***.com>
> wrote or quoted :
>
> >I see similar arguments put forward why animals can't be intelligent
> >or can't be conscious.
>
> I think what we mean by conscious is "does this creature suffer?".
>
> We assume that a computer churning away for hours seeking a solution
> to some problem does not experience frustration.
------------
Give us a break!
> It is really then an ethical question. Which creatures is it
> permissible to frustrate or kill? Or just how big a sin is it to do
> so?
>
> It is likely silly to go to great inconvenience to care for one of
> those Sony mechanical dogs. There is likely nothing home inside.
> However, it appears to me there is likely something inside a real dog
> quite capable of suffering if it is mistreated.
>
> An ethical view might be the idea is to minimize the total suffering
> in the universe, with differing notions as to how pain should be
> shared.
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No "universe" suffers.
> The crazy thing that seems to be about to happen is computers take
> over, and change the world in some way, yet not actually enjoy in any
> sense the fruits of their labours. All we humans could be gone and
> this empty shell of a culture keeps running propelled solely by the
> notion of natural selection. Without some consciousness to enjoy the
> show, what point in producing it?
-------------------
Ain't any, that's why we're here, so IT is.
-Steve
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Hans-Georg Michna
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Roedy Green <email***@***.com> wrote:
>My Oxford defines sentient as having the power to perceive via the
>senses. This suggest only animals could be sentient. Perception by
>other means does not count.
Roedy,
that makes my robotic lawn mower sentient, because it has a
sense of touch. :-)
I would rethink that definition.
Hans-Georg
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Hans-Georg Michna
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| Posted: 2003-8-30 20:33:00 |
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Roedy Green <email***@***.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:49:00 GMT, Roedy Green <email***@***.com>
>wrote or quoted :
>>I see similar arguments put forward why animals can't be intelligent
>>or can't be conscious.
>I think what we mean by conscious is "does this creature suffer?".
Roedy,
this leads us not very far, because the word suffer is again
very poorly defined.
For example, an insect apparently suffers when subjected to
damaging forces or heat. But you could build a robot that acts
exactly like the insect, and we could probably today build a
robot that has the same brain and nerve functional structure
with respect to suffering. In other words, such a robot would
suffer exactly like an insect---no difference.
Hans-Georg
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Corey Murtagh
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| Posted: 2003-8-30 23:29:00 |
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Roedy Green wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:32:26 -0500, Programmer Dude
> <email***@***.com> wrote or quoted :
>>
>>>There should be a discontinuity in anatomy.
For crying out loud, Roedy... that was YOUR statement that PD was
replying to. If you're going to respond to something, do so as a
response to the message itself, not some damn quote of it.
Or are you so confused that you don't recognize your own posts?
<snip>
> The human brain is made of three parts, sometimes called the
> reptitilian brain, the mammalian brain and the rational brain.
<snip>
> If you use that is your discrimination of value or intelligence, you
> run in to a problem. Elephants and whales have much larger rational
> brains that humans do.
>
> Those tarred with religious-induced species chauvinism argue their
> larger brains do not count because these animals have bigger bodies.
I really don't think religion is the primary cause of species
chauvinism. IMO ignorance and arrogance are the more prevalent causes.
--
Corey Murtagh
The Electric Monk
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0x76600000 - 0x7661B000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\CSCDLL.dll
0x76670000 - 0x76757000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\SETUPAPI.dll
0x01600000 - 0x0160B000 C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
6.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
0x01790000 - 0x017C8000 C:\Program Files\NewDotNet\newdotnet4_88.dll
0x71AB0000 - 0x71AC5000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\WS2_32.dll
0x71AA0000 - 0x71AA8000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\WS2HELP.dll
0x017E0000 - 0x01893000 C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
0x5EDD0000 - 0x5EDEA000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\olepro32.dll
0x019B0000 - 0x019D2000 C:\Program Files\WS_FTP Pro\wsbho2k0.dll
0x75E90000 - 0x75F37000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\SXS.DLL
0x01A10000 - 0x01A2C000 C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
0x01A30000 - 0x01A4A000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\ccTrust.dll
0x55900000 - 0x55961000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\MSVCP60.dll
0x76B20000 - 0x76B35000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\ATL.DLL
0x1A400000 - 0x1A47A000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\urlmon.dll
0x76170000 - 0x761F8000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\shdoclc.dll
0x74770000 - 0x747FF000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\mlang.dll
0x71AD0000 - 0x71AD8000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\wsock32.dll
0x71A50000 - 0x71A8B000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\mswsock.dll
0x71A90000 - 0x71A98000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\wshtcpip.dll
0x76EE0000 - 0x76F17000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\RASAPI32.DLL
0x76E90000 - 0x76EA1000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\rasman.dll
0x71C20000 - 0x71C6E000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\NETAPI32.dll
0x76EB0000 - 0x76EDB000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\TAPI32.dll
0x76E80000 - 0x76E8D000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\rtutils.dll
0x76B40000 - 0x76B6C000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\WINMM.dll
0x722B0000 - 0x722B5000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\sensapi.dll
0x75A70000 - 0x75B15000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\USERENV.dll
0x02030000 - 0x02231000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\msi.dll
0x605D0000 - 0x605D8000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\mslbui.dll
0x76F20000 - 0x76F45000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\DNSAPI.dll
0x76FB0000 - 0x76FB7000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\winrnr.dll
0x76F60000 - 0x76F8C000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLDAP32.dll
0x76FC0000 - 0x76FC5000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\rasadhlp.dll
0x63580000 - 0x6382E000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll
0x5C2C0000 - 0x5C2FC000 C:\WINDOWS\ime\sptip.dll
0x74C80000 - 0x74CAC000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\OLEACC.dll
0x02A00000 - 0x02A11000 C:\WINDOWS\IME\SPGRMR.DLL
0x02A50000 - 0x02A6B000 C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\Script Blocking\scrauth.dll
0x02B80000 - 0x02B9E000 C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\Script Blocking\ScrBlock.dll
0x76C30000 - 0x76C5B000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\wintrust.dll
0x76C90000 - 0x76CB2000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMAGEHLP.dll
0x0FFD0000 - 0x0FFF3000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\rsaenh.dll
0x73D50000 - 0x73D60000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\cryptnet.dll
0x6B700000 - 0x6B790000 c:\windows\system32\jscript.dll
0x746C0000 - 0x746E7000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\MSLS31.DLL
0x6B600000 - 0x6B671000 c:\windows\system32\vbscript.dll
0x66E50000 - 0x66E8B000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\iepeers.dll
0x73000000 - 0x73023000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\WINSPOOL.DRV
0x74CB0000 - 0x74D1F000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtmled.dll
0x72D20000 - 0x72D29000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\wdmaud.drv
0x72D10000 - 0x72D18000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\msacm32.drv
0x77BE0000 - 0x77BF4000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\MSACM32.dll
0x77BD0000 - 0x77BD7000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\midimap.dll
0x6D830000 - 0x6D83F000 C:\Program
Files\Java\j2re1.4.1_03\bin\npjpi141_03.dll
0x6D790000 - 0x6D7A6000 C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.1_03\bin\jpiexp32.dll
0x6D7D0000 - 0x6D7E4000 C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.1_03\bin\jpishare.dll
0x6D340000 - 0x6D46B000 C:\PROGRA~1\Java\J2RE14~2.1_0\bin\client\jvm.dll
0x6D1E0000 - 0x6D1E7000 C:\PROGRA~1\Java\J2RE14~2.1_0\bin\hpi.dll
0x6D310000 - 0x6D31E000 C:\PROGRA~1\Java\J2RE14~2.1_0\bin\verify.dll
0x6D220000 - 0x6D239000 C:\PROGRA~1\Java\J2RE14~2.1_0\bin\java.dll
0x6D330000 - 0x6D33D000 C:\PROGRA~1\Java\J2RE14~2.1_0\bin\zip.dll
0x6D000000 - 0x6D105000 C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.1_03\bin\awt.dll
0x6D190000 - 0x6D1E0000 C:\Program
Files\Java\j2re1.4.1_03\bin\fontmanager.dll
0x51000000 - 0x51047000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\ddraw.dll
0x73BC0000 - 0x73BC6000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\DCIMAN32.dll
0x5C000000 - 0x5C0C8000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\D3DIM700.DLL
0x6D730000 - 0x6D741000 C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.1_03\bin\jpicom32.dll
0x6D2E0000 - 0x6D2EE000 C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.1_03\bin\net.dll
0x6D140000 - 0x6D162000 C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.1_03\bin\dcpr.dll
0x6D510000 - 0x6D58D000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\DBGHELP.dll
0x76BF0000 - 0x76BFB000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\PSAPI.DLL
Local Time = Tue Jul 22 17:28:57 2003
Elapsed Time = 9
#
# The exception above was detected in native code outside the VM
#
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.4.1_03-b02 mixed mode)
#
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- ++i is faster than i++ in Java?I want to know in Java, is prefix operator faster than postfix
operator?
for example, ++i is faster than i++. I know in C++, this is the case,
but not sure if Java is the same.
please advise. thanks!!
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Does anyone know of any Java freeware that can help me generate a
US map with states being different colors? I am running JDK 1.3 for
Solaris. My intention is to color code states based on the number of
users wwe have from each state.
Thanks, - Dave
- 12
- Loading a properties file using ResourceBundleI try to load a properties file using ResourceBundle. However, when I print
out the data in the map table, they are not in order as in the properties
file.
Is there a way lo load the properties file using the ResourceBundle so that
the data in the map table are listed in order as in the actual properties
file.
Example:
The properties file contains
ID1
ID2
ID3
After loaded and when printed out from tha map table, it displayed as
ID2
ID1
ID3
Thanks
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- inner classes and static membersCan somebody please tell me a practical reason why you couldn't have
static members (not constants) within an inner class? I know that this
is forbidden, but I haven't found a practical, concrete reason for
this... I was wondering if this was just a whimsical decision from the
designers of the language.
Thanks a lot in advance...
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- doing something after so many times something has loadedHi am currently writing a java application. The program that i am
writing allows people to be able log on to the program using a username
and password. I want to be able to edit information in a MySQL Database
when there has been a password error 3 times. How would i go about
checking to see how many times something has happened.
Any help would be apreciated.
Thank you
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- access web service over pluginHi All,
I'm trying to access a web service over a simple plugin. The web
service is
the "helloservice" example of jwsdp 1.3 .
When I compile and run the example as java-project in eclipse, it
works!
But when I try to make a plugin, I get the error:
Endpoint address = http://localhost:8080/hello-jaxrpc/hello
hello obj: staticstub.HelloIF_Stub@5e8d7d
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.sun.xml.rpc.soap.message.SOAPMessageContext.createMessage(SOAPMessageContext.java:114)
at com.sun.xml.rpc.client.StreamingSenderState.<init>(StreamingSenderState.java:26)
at com.sun.xml.rpc.client.StreamingSender._start(StreamingSender.java:46)
at staticstub.HelloIF_Stub.sayHello(HelloIF_Stub.java:52)
at staticstub.HelloClient.main(HelloClient.java:46)
at hallo.actions.SampleAction.run(SampleAction.java:37)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.PluginAction.runWithEvent(PluginAction.java:251)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.WWinPluginAction.runWithEvent(WWinPluginAction.java:207)
at org.eclipse.jface.action.ActionContributionItem.handleWidgetSelection(ActionContributionItem.java:456)
at org.eclipse.jface.action.ActionContributionItem.handleWidgetEvent(ActionContributionItem.java:403)
at org.eclipse.jface.action.ActionContributionItem.access$0(ActionContributionItem.java:397)
at org.eclipse.jface.action.ActionContributionItem$ActionListener.handleEvent(ActionContributionItem.java:72)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.EventTable.sendEvent(EventTable.java:81)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.sendEvent(Widget.java:840)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.runDeferredEvents(Display.java:2022)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.readAndDispatch(Display.java:1729)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.runEventLoop(Workbench.java:1402)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.run(Workbench.java:1385)
at org.eclipse.core.internal.boot.InternalBootLoader.run(InternalBootLoader.java:858)
at org.eclipse.core.boot.BootLoader.run(BootLoader.java:461)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324)
at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.basicRun(Main.java:291)
at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.run(Main.java:747)
at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.main(Main.java:583)
Can someone help me??
Thanks!
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