Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue

java-programmer, Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue Hi there,
My java lecturer has given us an assignment related to casting and
type conversion etc.
One of the conversions he wan't is convert "Hello" to a float.

I suspect this is a trick question on his part as "Hello" is not a
parsible value.
This is the code I have:
//Convert String object "s" to a Float object
//then convert Float object to float value
try { System.out.println("String is "+s+" float is
"+Float.valueOf(s).floatValue());
}

catch (NumberFormatException NFE)
{ System.out.println("NumberFormatException: "+ NFE.getMessage()+
" The input string does not contain a parsable number"); }
I emailed the guy but he says just to use your own judgement.
I looked at the API for the wrapper classes etc and I think a
conversion of this type is almost impossible.
Any ideas welcome.

java-programmer >> Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue
"ITrishGuru" <email***@***.com> wrote in message
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| Hi there,
| My java lecturer has given us an assignment related to casting and
| type conversion etc.
| One of the conversions he wan't is convert "Hello" to a float.
|
| I suspect this is a trick question on his part as "Hello" is not a
| parsible value.
| This is the code I have:
| //Convert String object "s" to a Float object
| //then convert Float object to float value
| try { System.out.println("String is "+s+" float is
| "+Float.valueOf(s).floatValue());
| }
|
| catch (NumberFormatException NFE)
| { System.out.println("NumberFormatException: "+ NFE.getMessage()+
| " The input string does not contain a parsable number"); }
| I emailed the guy but he says just to use your own judgement.
| I looked at the API for the wrapper classes etc and I think a
| conversion of this type is almost impossible.
| Any ideas welcome.

The purpose of this exercise might be to get you to think about the numbers
that lay beneath constructions such as "strings" and "floats". You can
traverse a string and pick off the characters. These will have numeric
equivalences that you can combine into something that makes a floating point
value (e.g. the letters are base 52) For practical purposes, however, the
concept is nonsensical.

I think what bothers me most is his answer--he must be able to explain the
point of the exercise.

Matt Humphrey http://www.iviz.com/

java-programmer >> Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue Matt Humphrey wrote:

> The purpose of this exercise might be to get you to think about the numbers
> that lay beneath constructions such as "strings" and "floats". You can

I think I like the original poster's code better. There is, really, no
sensible way of answering the problem.

Unless the the OP can contact some fellow students and figure out how to
make the assignment make sense in terms of recent lecture material or
whatever, I'd just use the OP's code and move on to more important things.

Seriously, how often do you have to write your own base number
conversions? I'd rather tackle a nasty tree update problem than tripe
like this.

java-programmer >> Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue
"Mark Space" <email***@***.com> wrote in message
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| Matt Humphrey wrote:
|
| > The purpose of this exercise might be to get you to think about the
numbers
| > that lay beneath constructions such as "strings" and "floats". You can
|
| I think I like the original poster's code better. There is, really, no
| sensible way of answering the problem.

I did say that in my answer and I agree that the poster's code is
reasonable. Very likely the only point to the exercise is that input data
needs to be validated.

|
| Unless the the OP can contact some fellow students and figure out how to
| make the assignment make sense in terms of recent lecture material or
| whatever, I'd just use the OP's code and move on to more important things.
|
| Seriously, how often do you have to write your own base number
| conversions? I'd rather tackle a nasty tree update problem than tripe
| like this.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to assign an exercise that teaches a
concept but for which you'll never actually implement in real life. It
looks like a typical first-year exercise to me.

Matt Humphrey http://www.iviz.com/

java-programmer >> Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:31:15 -0000, ITrishGuru <email***@***.com>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

>My java lecturer has given us an assignment related to casting and
>type conversion etc.
>One of the conversions he wan't is convert "Hello" to a float.

I think he is being a smart ass, but for the answer see
Double.bitsToDouble.
--
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The Java Glossary
http://mindprod.com

java-programmer >> Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:31:15 -0000, ITrishGuru <email***@***.com>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

>One of the conversions he wan't is convert "Hello" to a float.

Throw a metaphorical pie in the guy's face. Why waste time with silly
problems like this when there are so many real world problems to
tackle where you could actually make use of the result?

--
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
The Java Glossary
http://mindprod.com

java-programmer >> Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue Matt Humphrey wrote:
> I think it's perfectly reasonable to assign an exercise that teaches a
> concept but for which you'll never actually implement in real life. It
> looks like a typical first-year exercise to me.

It looks like a typical customer requirements doc to me.

It's not so irrelevant to the real world in that way.

I had an interviewer ask me to implement an algorithm that assigned moentary
values to letters in words. He instructed me that "'A' is worth one cent, 'B'
two, and so on."

I asked, "What's 'C' worth?"

He looked suprised. "Just continue the series!"

"One, two, three, four, five, etc., or one, two, four, eight, sixteen, etc.?"

> convert "Hello" to a float.

float f = "Hello".hashCode();

--
Lew

java-programmer >> Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue Lew wrote:
...
>I had an interviewer ask me to implement an algorithm that assigned moentary
>values to letters in words. He instructed me that "'A' is worth one cent, 'B'
>two, and so on."
>
>I asked, "What's 'C' worth?"
>
>He looked suprised. "Just continue the series!"
>
>"One, two, ..

.four, eight, sixteen. ;-)

--
Andrew Thompson
http://www.athompson.info/andrew/

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java-programmer >> Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue Andrew Thompson wrote:
>....
>>I had an interviewer ask me to implement an algorithm that assigned moentary
>>values to letters in words. He instructed me that "'A' is worth one cent, 'B'
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>>"One, two, ..
>
>..four, eight, sixteen. ;-)

A pity it was not "Zero, one, .."

<sscce>
class SillySeries {

static void seriesDoubledMinusOne (int number) {
System.out.println("Series Doubled (minus one)");
int previous = 1;
for (int ii=0; ii<number-1; ii++) {
System.out.print(previous-1 + ", ");
previous*=2;
}
System.out.println(previous-1);
}

static void seriesSquared (int number) {
System.out.println("Series Squared");
for (int ii=0; ii<number-1; ii++) {
System.out.print((int)Math.pow(ii,2) + ", ");
}
System.out.println((int)Math.pow(number,2));
}

static void seriesCubed (int number) {
System.out.println("Series Cubed");
for (int ii=0; ii<number-1; ii++) {
System.out.print((int)Math.pow(ii,3) + ", ");
}
System.out.println((int)Math.pow(number,3));
}

static void seriesOddEvenNegativeFlip(int number) {
System.out.println("Series Odd/Even (With Negative Flip)");
for (int ii=0; ii<number; ii++) {
int result = (ii%2==0 ? -ii : ii);
System.out.print( result + ", ");
}
int result = (number%2==0 ? -number : number);
System.out.println(result);
}

static void seriesUpDown(int number) {
System.out.println("Series Up/Down");
for (int ii=0; ii<number; ii++) {
System.out.print( ii%2 + ", ");
}
System.out.println(number%2);
}

public static void main(String[] args) {
int members = 10;
seriesDoubledMinusOne(members);
seriesSquared(members);
seriesCubed(members);
seriesOddEvenNegativeFlip(members);
seriesUpDown(members);
}
}
</sscce>

.and yes, I do *really* need to find better uses
for my time.

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java-programmer >> Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue "Andrew Thompson" <u32984@uwe> burped up warm pablum in news:78f01647f9361@uwe:
[...]
> .and yes, I do *really* need to find better uses
> for my time.

Perhaps "The On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences," http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/,
will help?

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Tris Orendorff
[ Anyone naming their child should spend a few minutes checking rhyming slang and dodgy sounding
names. Brad and Angelina failed to do this when naming their kid Shiloh Pitt. At some point, someone at
school is going to spoonerise her name.
Craig Stark]

java-programmer >> Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue Tris Orendorff wrote:
>[...]
>> .and yes, I do *really* need to find better uses
>> for my time.
>
>Perhaps "The On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences," http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/,
>will help?

Or perhaps a drug treatment prescribed by a
qualified psychiatrist?

I note hat when I visit that page, remove all the
numbers after one and two, do the search and
wait a while, it comes up with 3692 possiblilites
or (frowns) is that 3692 *pages* of possibilities?

I think I'll take the 'drug option'!

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java-programmer >> Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue Roedy Green wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:31:15 -0000, ITrishGuru <email***@***.com>
> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>
>> One of the conversions he wan't is convert "Hello" to a float.
>

I missed the "one of" part earlier. Yes, validating data is important,
that's probably what the lesson here is.

Assuming that validating is the intent, what's the best answer?

Converting "hello" to 0 isn't right. Even NaN may have implications
that aren't warranted by the input. I'd convert it to mull maybe, but
also make sure to catch the exception and indicate a problem.

For an assignment, I'd continue to accept input after catching the
exception. In real life, I might propagate the error up or halt the
program. If instead of a file of numerical values, the input is
something else, the user probably made an error and needs to be notified
right away.

java-programmer >> Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue On Sep 29, 9:09 pm, Mark Space <email***@***.com> wrote:
> Roedy Green wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:31:15 -0000, ITrishGuru <email***@***.com>
> > wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>
> >> One of the conversions he wan't is convert "Hello" to a float.
>
> I missed the "one of" part earlier. Yes, validating data is important,
> that's probably what the lesson here is.
>
> Assuming that validating is the intent, what's the best answer?
>
> Converting "hello" to 0 isn't right. Even NaN may have implications
> that aren't warranted by the input. I'd convert it to mull maybe, but
> also make sure to catch the exception and indicate a problem.
>
> For an assignment, I'd continue to accept input after catching the
> exception. In real life, I might propagate the error up or halt the
> program. If instead of a file of numerical values, the input is
> something else, the user probably made an error and needs to be notified
> right away.

Thanks Guys! I'll include multiple answers to my lecturers question, I
hope that impresses him!!

java-programmer >> Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue On Sep 29, 9:09 pm, Mark Space <email***@***.com> wrote:
> Roedy Green wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:31:15 -0000, ITrishGuru <email***@***.com>
> > wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>
> >> One of the conversions he wan't is convert "Hello" to a float.
>
> I missed the "one of" part earlier. Yes, validating data is important,
> that's probably what the lesson here is.
>
> Assuming that validating is the intent, what's the best answer?
>
> Converting "hello" to 0 isn't right. Even NaN may have implications
> that aren't warranted by the input. I'd convert it to mull maybe, but
> also make sure to catch the exception and indicate a problem.
>
> For an assignment, I'd continue to accept input after catching the
> exception. In real life, I might propagate the error up or halt the
> program. If instead of a file of numerical values, the input is
> something else, the user probably made an error and needs to be notified
> right away.

Thanks again,
I'll go with these two options and hope it looks smart

//convert String Object "s" to a float primitive
//compute the hash code of "s" then cast as a float
System.out.println((float)s.hashCode());

//try catch block//
//Convert String Object "s" to a Float Object
//then convert Float Object to float value
try { System.out.println("String is "+s+" float is "+
Float.valueOf(s).floatValue());
}

catch (NumberFormatException NFE)
{ System.out.println("NumberFormatException: "+ NFE.getMessage()+
" The input string does not contain a parsable number"); }

//end of try catch block//

java-programmer >> Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue Andrew Thompson <u32984@uwe> wrote:
> Lew wrote:
>>I had an interviewer ask me to implement an algorithm that assigned moentary
>>values to letters in words. He instructed me that "'A' is worth one cent, 'B'
>>two, and so on."
>>I asked, "What's 'C' worth?"
>>He looked suprised. "Just continue the series!"
>>"One, two, ..
> .four, eight, sixteen. ;-)

One, two, three, five, eight, thirteen, twentyone, ...

appears selfsuggesting to me.

java-programmer >> Convert from text string "Hello" to floating-point number issue ITrishGuru wrote:
>> >> One of the conversions he wan't is convert "Hello" to a float.
..
>I'll go with these two options and hope it looks smart
(snip)

Looking at your end result, I suspect you have made
good choices. The code covers two viable interpretations,
and handles each appropriately.

You might make a comment about the possibility of
'identical hashcodes' for the String objects.

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