NetBeans to abandon Java ? It makes you wonder...

java-programmer, NetBeans to abandon Java ? It makes you wonder... Today I was directed to a satisfaction survey on the NetBeans website
after starting NetBeans 6. I expresses my disdain about the product,
said that the current setup does not allow me to get my work down (I'm
still using NB 5.5.1 for my Java development) but that I have to admit
that the whole documentation as well as the overall speed is satisfying.

Then I got curious to the end results of the survey, couldn't find any,
but I did stumble upon this page with lots of success stories about
excited developers who've (re)discovered NetBeans:
http://www.netbeans.org/servlets/NewsItemView?newsItemID=1179.

After reading that whole page I was basically left with one simple
question: "And what about Java?".

I quote from the page: "Developers continue to rave about NetBeans 6.0
IDE features--its support for Ruby and C++, the debugger, the easy
installation process and more.". There isn't much changed with regards
to the installation, NB5.5.1 also has a good debugger and then what ?

Reading on there are a few success stories. Funny though how those
reflect on the IDE as a whole, RoR or C++. Reading on again we see 4
more stories: "Amazing RoR support", "Cleaner, slimmer, more focused IDE
than Eclipse" and finally "A lot of features".

Cool. SO like, why am I wondering why I don't read so many success
stories which are fully related to Java ?

Heck, here I am utilizing NB6 as we speak to debug a PHP powered
website, and its doing a pretty good job as well, apart from the
sometimes very annoying delays its causing me. But thats a minor issue,
and only happening very sporadically.

Still... Is NetBeans shifting their focus ? I have to wonder. It would
explain something about my horror experiences where (IMO) important Java
related features like autocomment (javadoc administration) and pattern
support (javabean administration) were removed. While I don't consider
NB6 to be a decent Java editor I have to admit its doing well on PHP.
Errr... I think I'll stop here :P

With kind regards,

Peter

java-programmer >> NetBeans to abandon Java ? It makes you wonder... "the current setup does not allow me to get my work down "
try using English next time you post

"Lion-O" <email***@***.com> wrote in message
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> Today I was directed to a satisfaction survey on the NetBeans website
> after starting NetBeans 6. I expresses my disdain about the product, said
> that the current setup does not allow me to get my work down (I'm still
> using NB 5.5.1 for my Java development) but that I have to admit that the
> whole documentation as well as the overall speed is satisfying.
>
> Then I got curious to the end results of the survey, couldn't find any,
> but I did stumble upon this page with lots of success stories about
> excited developers who've (re)discovered NetBeans:
> http://www.netbeans.org/servlets/NewsItemView?newsItemID=1179.
>
> After reading that whole page I was basically left with one simple
> question: "And what about Java?".
>
> I quote from the page: "Developers continue to rave about NetBeans 6.0 IDE
> features--its support for Ruby and C++, the debugger, the easy
> installation process and more.". There isn't much changed with regards to
> the installation, NB5.5.1 also has a good debugger and then what ?
>
> Reading on there are a few success stories. Funny though how those reflect
> on the IDE as a whole, RoR or C++. Reading on again we see 4 more stories:
> "Amazing RoR support", "Cleaner, slimmer, more focused IDE than Eclipse"
> and finally "A lot of features".
>
> Cool. SO like, why am I wondering why I don't read so many success
> stories which are fully related to Java ?
>
> Heck, here I am utilizing NB6 as we speak to debug a PHP powered website,
> and its doing a pretty good job as well, apart from the sometimes very
> annoying delays its causing me. But thats a minor issue, and only
> happening very sporadically.
>
>
> Still... Is NetBeans shifting their focus ? I have to wonder. It would
> explain something about my horror experiences where (IMO) important Java
> related features like autocomment (javadoc administration) and pattern
> support (javabean administration) were removed. While I don't consider NB6
> to be a decent Java editor I have to admit its doing well on PHP. Errr...
> I think I'll stop here :P
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Peter

java-programmer >> NetBeans to abandon Java ? It makes you wonder... Core2Duo wrote:
> "the current setup does not allow me to get my work down "
> try using English next time you post

Its nice to see that you gave Peter such a helpful answer and made
therewith an important contribution to this topic.

Except for criticising other's typos/errors, do you have anything else
to add here? It doesnt seem so.

Oh and by the way, for Peter being (probably) Dutch he seems to have an
excellent English. Do you speak Dutch that well too?

Judging from your posting I'd have to assume Aussies are kind of
ill-bred and have zero flexibility in terms of "understanding", am I right?

java-programmer >> NetBeans to abandon Java ? It makes you wonder... Your post gives no evidence at all Netbeans is about to abandon Java.
They are merely branching out.

When you do JNI it would be nice to have an single integrated
environment for editing and debugging.

I can see some people wanting scripting/prototyping language support
too.
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java-programmer >> NetBeans to abandon Java ? It makes you wonder... > Your post gives no evidence at all Netbeans is about to abandon Java. They
> are merely branching out.

Hard evidence? No, that I can't give. And yes, I am well aware of the
branching. The whole goal is to setup an IDE from which you can do everything
which is supported by it. They introduced (basic) C++ support during the 5.5.x
days already. Nothing new there.

Still, I can't help wonder how the success stories seem to have moved from Java
to other environments. It is speculating, very true, but I wonder how long this
will last untill they start pushing their "netbeans environment" over the
"netbeans java ide" as being their primary focus.

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java-programmer >> NetBeans to abandon Java ? It makes you wonder... In comp.lang.java.advocacy, Lion-O
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on Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:15:50 -0600
<email***@***.com>:
>> Your post gives no evidence at all Netbeans is about to abandon Java. They
>> are merely branching out.
>
> Hard evidence? No, that I can't give. And yes, I am well aware of the
> branching. The whole goal is to setup an IDE from which you can do everything
> which is supported by it. They introduced (basic) C++ support during the 5.5.x
> days already. Nothing new there.
>
> Still, I can't help wonder how the success stories seem to have moved from Java
> to other environments. It is speculating, very true, but I wonder how long this
> will last untill they start pushing their "netbeans environment" over the
> "netbeans java ide" as being their primary focus.
>

Sooooo....will it support C#? :-)

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java-programmer >> NetBeans to abandon Java ? It makes you wonder... Cut the crap bro.
You've added nothing.

"tom" <email***@***.com> wrote in message
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> Core2Duo wrote:
>> "the current setup does not allow me to get my work down "
>> try using English next time you post
>
> Its nice to see that you gave Peter such a helpful answer and made
> therewith an important contribution to this topic.
>
> Except for criticising other's typos/errors, do you have anything else
> to add here? It doesnt seem so.
>
> Oh and by the way, for Peter being (probably) Dutch he seems to have an
> excellent English. Do you speak Dutch that well too?
>
> Judging from your posting I'd have to assume Aussies are kind of
> ill-bred and have zero flexibility in terms of "understanding", am I
> right?

java-programmer >> NetBeans to abandon Java ? It makes you wonder... >> It is speculating, very true, but I wonder how long this will last untill
>> they start pushing their "netbeans environment" over the "netbeans java ide"
>> as being their primary focus.
>>
> Sooooo....will it support C#? :-)

hehe, at the the developments are going even /that/ wouldn't surprise me :-)

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