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Cynthia Campbell





PostPosted: 2004-11-9 11:31:00 Top

java-programmer, basic question on Java in XP Hello,

can someone please tell me how to ascertain what version (if any) of Java is
installed in a WinXP platform?

my friend needs some kind of Java module installed so that she can do a
tutorial for an online registration service.

any help would be appreciated.

Cynthia


 
Ivan Gotcha





PostPosted: 2004-11-9 12:18:00 Top

java-programmer >> basic question on Java in XP
Open a Command Prompt window and type "java -version"


 
Steve Sobol





PostPosted: 2004-11-9 12:21:00 Top

java-programmer >> basic question on Java in XP Ivan Gotcha wrote:
> Open a Command Prompt window and type "java -version"

There's a system property that'll work too if you need to check it from within
an app.

It's no different from Java running on other platforms.


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Andrew Thompson





PostPosted: 2004-11-9 13:11:00 Top

java-programmer >> basic question on Java in XP On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 03:30:45 GMT, Cynthia Campbell wrote:

> can someone please tell me how to ascertain what version (if any) of Java is
> installed in a WinXP platform?

Browser or desktop? (This is an important distinction, since
they are not necessarily the same.)

You can find out which Java (if any) a browser is using by
pointing it here.
<http://www.physci.org/pc/property.jsp?prop=java.version>

OTOH, there is a link to download the 'application' version of that
program (JTest - at the top of the page) that will show that property
(as well as others) for the destop.

But let's clarify browser/desktop first.


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Cynthia Campbell





PostPosted: 2004-11-9 14:55:00 Top

java-programmer >> basic question on Java in XP Andrew: good point - my friend needs a version of Java installed to enable
certain functions in a browser - is this different than the "runtime Java"
from sun systems?

thanks...


"Andrew Thompson" <email***@***.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 03:30:45 GMT, Cynthia Campbell wrote:
>
> > can someone please tell me how to ascertain what version (if any) of
Java is
> > installed in a WinXP platform?
>
> Browser or desktop? (This is an important distinction, since
> they are not necessarily the same.)
>
> You can find out which Java (if any) a browser is using by
> pointing it here.
> <http://www.physci.org/pc/property.jsp?prop=java.version>
>
> OTOH, there is a link to download the 'application' version of that
> program (JTest - at the top of the page) that will show that property
> (as well as others) for the destop.
>
> But let's clarify browser/desktop first.
>
>
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> Andrew Thompson
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Andrew Thompson





PostPosted: 2004-11-9 15:43:00 Top

java-programmer >> basic question on Java in XP On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 06:55:18 GMT, Cynthia Campbell wrote:

See responses below..

> "Andrew Thompson" <email***@***.com> wrote in message
> news:email***@***.com...
>> On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 03:30:45 GMT, Cynthia Campbell wrote:
>>
>>> can someone please tell me how to ascertain what version (if any) of
> Java is
>>> installed in a WinXP platform?
>>
>> Browser or desktop? (This is an important distinction, since
>> they are not necessarily the same.)

> Andrew: good point - my friend needs a version of Java installed to enable
> certain functions in a browser

Internet Explorer (by any chance)?
..
>> You can find out which Java (if any) a browser is using by
>> pointing it here.
>> <http://www.physci.org/pc/property.jsp?prop=java.version>

Get your friend to visit this link. If it says '1.1.4',
that will (probably) be the problem.

> ...is this different than the "runtime Java"
> from sun systems?

Possibly, especially if the browser is Internet Explorer, or very old.
Your friend *should* upgrade the browser to Sun Java if it is *not*
using it. While there are other good manufacurers of the Java plug-in,
there are also some bad ones, and it is best (for average end users)
to stick with the one made by Sun.

OTOH, perhpas I should have a closer look at this
"..tutorial for an online registration service.".
What is the URL?

[ If they have been smart, it will work with Java 1.1 +,
and the problem *might* be something other than what I
am guessing (IE missing modern Java) ].

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Cynthia Campbell





PostPosted: 2004-11-9 16:47:00 Top

java-programmer >> basic question on Java in XP "Andrew Thompson" <email***@***.com> wrote in message
news:fewghr8b588h$.jpqu3wtugwwn$email***@***.com...
> On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 06:55:18 GMT, Cynthia Campbell wrote:
>
> See responses below..
>
> > "Andrew Thompson" <email***@***.com> wrote in message
> > news:email***@***.com...
> >> On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 03:30:45 GMT, Cynthia Campbell wrote:
> >>> can someone please tell me how to ascertain what version (if any) of
> > Java is installed in a WinXP platform? Browser or desktop? (This is an
important distinction, since
> >> they are not necessarily the same.)
>
> > Andrew: good point - my friend needs a version of Java installed to
enable
> > certain functions in a browser
>
> Internet Explorer (by any chance)?
> ..
> >> You can find out which Java (if any) a browser is using by
> >> pointing it here.
> >> <http://www.physci.org/pc/property.jsp?prop=java.version>

> Get your friend to visit this link. If it says '1.1.4', that will
(probably) be the problem.
>
> > ...is this different than the "runtime Java" from sun systems?
>
> Possibly, especially if the browser is Internet Explorer, or very old.
Your friend *should* upgrade the browser to Sun Java if it is *not* using
it. While there are other good manufacurers of the Java plug-in, there are
also some bad ones, and it is best (for average end users) to stick with
the one made by Sun.
>
> OTOH, perhpas I should have a closer look at this "..tutorial for an
online registration service.".What is the URL?


Hello Andrew:

Thanks for the pointers.

When I visit the link above with IE6, it shows nothing. When I visit with
Mozilla Firefox, it says, "Java Version 1.4.2_05." I'm slowly getting the
picture here. M$ seems to have dropped its support for it's "java VM"
environment; therefore, I suppose if my friend wants to do her online
tutorial, she'll need to use a Mozilla-based browser. I did recently
install the latest Sun java runtime on her system (therefore the version
readout above); it's just that I assumed somehow that Sun java would install
its own plugin in IE6.

The registration service is called "regonline"; they don't say much about
their tutorials on their site.

Cynthia



 
 
Andrew Thompson





PostPosted: 2004-11-9 17:13:00 Top

java-programmer >> basic question on Java in XP On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 08:46:55 GMT, Cynthia Campbell wrote:

> "Andrew Thompson" <email***@***.com> wrote in message
> news:fewghr8b588h$.jpqu3wtugwwn$email***@***.com...
...
>>>> You can find out which Java (if any) a browser is using by
>>>> pointing it here.
>>>> <http://www.physci.org/pc/property.jsp?prop=java.version>
..
> When I visit the link above with IE6, it shows nothing.

It should NEVER show NOTHING, Cynthia.

It might display
"This page requires 'Java enabled'. Please consult
your browser settings or system administrator."

Or.. "This applet requires the free Java Plug-In."

Which is it?

>>> ...is this different than the "runtime Java" from sun systems?
>>
>> Possibly, especially if the browser is Internet Explorer, or very old.

> ....M$ seems to have dropped its support for it's "java VM"
> environment;

Yes. Now MS supply IE with no Java.
(A lot of browser makers offer 'Java'/'No Java' options)
The user can install Java if they want.

>..therefore, I suppose if my friend wants to do her online
> tutorial, she'll need to use a Mozilla-based browser.

She can install it for IE's use, or *configure IE* as apporpriate.

But, listen closely.

I am not sure what the problem is yet, and before we go getting
carried away, I want to see this applet for myself.

>> OTOH, perhpas I should have a closer look at this "..tutorial for an
>> online registration service.".What is the URL?
..
> The registration service is called "regonline";

This one? <http://www.regonline.com/>

>..they don't say much about
> their tutorials on their site.

I could not see any applets at all. Can you copy/paste the
URL (web address) you visit to see this page?

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Cynthia Campbell





PostPosted: 2004-11-10 9:06:00 Top

java-programmer >> basic question on Java in XP Hi Andrew,

Thanks for your comments. Re, your last comment, I re-affirm that IE6 shows
NOTHING (except a large blank square with a tiny square red "x" in the upper
left - IE's "can't load graphic" icon..) When I use FireFox, I get a
drop-down select, then below a grey square with the info chosen in the
drop-down visible.

I even went into IE6 tools/options and ENABLED all the Java options in
advanced (Java Sun, Java console, Java logging and Java compiler). I then
re-booted the whole system, but the web-link still gave the
"empty/no-graphic" icon described above.

As far as the "regonline" tutorial, I'll have to check with their tech
support to see what they require. Nonetheless, I would like to get IE6
Java-friendly if possible.

Cynthia


 
 
Andrew Thompson





PostPosted: 2004-11-10 15:06:00 Top

java-programmer >> basic question on Java in XP On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 01:05:46 GMT, Cynthia Campbell wrote:

> Thanks for your comments. Re, your last comment, I re-affirm that IE6 shows
> NOTHING (except a large blank square with a tiny square red "x" in the upper
> left - IE's "can't load graphic" icon..) When I use FireFox, I get a
> drop-down select, then below a grey square with the info chosen in the
> drop-down visible.

That is a warning sign that my earlier guesses were *WRONG*.
There is another thing that might have happened to IE.

Let's test it..
<http://www.physci.org/test/appletcall/index5.html>

This page was designed for something else, but it might
tell me something important. What are the (any) word or
words before "Above is defined an applet call in two
forms, an..."

Are there *any* words *above* that sentence? What are they?

> I even went into IE6 tools/options and ENABLED all the Java options in
> advanced (Java Sun, Java console, Java logging and Java compiler).

Good. I was about to ask you to go into IE options, but it
seems you're already ahead of me there. We might come back to
those, but it's good to know you are familiar with them.

(snip)
> As far as the "regonline" tutorial, I'll have to check with their tech
> support to see what they require.

If you could. I always forget to add "..and don't forget to
ask the people who supply this Applet!"

>..Nonetheless, I would like to get IE6
> Java-friendly if possible.

OK, that answers a question I was about to ask you.
(Are you prepared to simply dump IE and use a different browser?
..Good to see you are not giving in so easily! )

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