Is heavy client dead? Is swing applet dead?  
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PostPosted: 2005-3-23 11:24:00 Top

java-programmer, Is heavy client dead? Is swing applet dead? Today most Java UI developers are focusing on solutions like Struts,
Taperstry, and JSF. It seems that noone care about Swing applet as a
choice as rich client.

Is heavy client dead? I think heavy client solution like swing applet
is still good for business application. Especially for many internal
business projects. In internal business environment, the download speed
is usually not a problem. Swing also provides better GUI than html.
Swing has the ability to cache information on the client side which
save a lot of network calls to server.

Do you agree? Should we all forget about Swing and heavy client
solution, and vote for Struts and JSF?

Thank you
Jim

 
Alex Molochnikov





PostPosted: 2005-3-24 15:51:00 Top

java-programmer >> Is heavy client dead? Is swing applet dead? Swing is alive and well. For an example of a pure Swing-based client see
www.reportgenerator.com (Scribe Report Generator). HTML is too clunky for
effective interaction with the user. And Swing is just fine for the external
deployment as well. The code making up Scribe client (the .jar files) is
cached locally for speed, and updated automatically from the server when
needed.

Alex Molochnikov
Gestalt Corporation

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> Today most Java UI developers are focusing on solutions like Struts,
> Taperstry, and JSF. It seems that noone care about Swing applet as a
> choice as rich client.
>
> Is heavy client dead? I think heavy client solution like swing applet
> is still good for business application. Especially for many internal
> business projects. In internal business environment, the download speed
> is usually not a problem. Swing also provides better GUI than html.
> Swing has the ability to cache information on the client side which
> save a lot of network calls to server.
>
> Do you agree? Should we all forget about Swing and heavy client
> solution, and vote for Struts and JSF?
>
> Thank you
> Jim
>


 
Jeroen Wenting





PostPosted: 2005-3-25 3:29:00 Top

java-programmer >> Is heavy client dead? Is swing applet dead? Cobol is dead, long live Cobol!

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> Today most Java UI developers are focusing on solutions like Struts,
> Taperstry, and JSF. It seems that noone care about Swing applet as a
> choice as rich client.
>
> Is heavy client dead? I think heavy client solution like swing applet
> is still good for business application. Especially for many internal
> business projects. In internal business environment, the download speed
> is usually not a problem. Swing also provides better GUI than html.
> Swing has the ability to cache information on the client side which
> save a lot of network calls to server.
>
> Do you agree? Should we all forget about Swing and heavy client
> solution, and vote for Struts and JSF?
>
> Thank you
> Jim
>


 
 
Michael N. Christoff





PostPosted: 2005-4-2 7:11:00 Top

java-programmer >> Is heavy client dead? Is swing applet dead?
"Alex Molochnikov" <email***@***.com> wrote in message
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> Swing is alive and well. For an example of a pure Swing-based client see
> www.reportgenerator.com

I personally like the report generator from www.reportgenerator.org a lot
better.

> (Scribe Report Generator). HTML is too clunky for
> effective interaction with the user. And Swing is just fine for the
external
> deployment as well. The code making up Scribe client (the .jar files) is
> cached locally for speed, and updated automatically from the server when
> needed.
>
> Alex Molochnikov
> Gestalt Corporation
>
> <email***@***.com> wrote in message
> news:email***@***.com...
> > Today most Java UI developers are focusing on solutions like Struts,
> > Taperstry, and JSF. It seems that noone care about Swing applet as a
> > choice as rich client.
> >
> > Is heavy client dead? I think heavy client solution like swing applet
> > is still good for business application. Especially for many internal
> > business projects. In internal business environment, the download speed
> > is usually not a problem. Swing also provides better GUI than html.
> > Swing has the ability to cache information on the client side which
> > save a lot of network calls to server.
> >
> > Do you agree? Should we all forget about Swing and heavy client
> > solution, and vote for Struts and JSF?
> >
> > Thank you
> > Jim
> >
>
>


 
 
Alex Molochnikov





PostPosted: 2005-4-2 7:56:00 Top

java-programmer >> Is heavy client dead? Is swing applet dead? "Michael N. Christoff" <email***@***.com> wrote in message
news:_xk3e.23880$email***@***.com...
>
> "Alex Molochnikov" <email***@***.com> wrote in message
> news:Aju0e.767530$6l.46336@pd7tw2no...
> > Swing is alive and well. For an example of a pure Swing-based client see
> > www.reportgenerator.com
>
> I personally like the report generator from www.reportgenerator.org a lot
> better.

Sorry for mangling the address. I hope there are other reasons to like
Scribe report generator, beside the correct URL.

Alex.


 
 
Thomas G. Marshall





PostPosted: 2005-4-10 13:37:00 Top

java-programmer >> Is heavy client dead? Is swing applet dead? Jeroen Wenting coughed up:
> Cobol is dead, long live Cobol!

LOL. You're right. We're hearing far too many versions of the
sky-is-falling for <something/> posts.

Come to think of it, I think that the TRS-80 is a goner....


--
"Well, ain't this place a geographical oddity!
Two weeks from everywhere!"


 
 
Ilgaz Ocal





PostPosted: 2005-4-12 18:43:00 Top

java-programmer >> Is heavy client dead? Is swing applet dead? On 2005-03-23 05:24:16 +0200, email***@***.com said:

> Today most Java UI developers are focusing on solutions like Struts,
> Taperstry, and JSF. It seems that noone care about Swing applet as a
> choice as rich client.
>
> Is heavy client dead? I think heavy client solution like swing applet
> is still good for business application. Especially for many internal
> business projects. In internal business environment, the download speed
> is usually not a problem. Swing also provides better GUI than html.
> Swing has the ability to cache information on the client side which
> save a lot of network calls to server.
>
> Do you agree? Should we all forget about Swing and heavy client
> solution, and vote for Struts and JSF?
>
> Thank you
> Jim

One of world's most downloaded (while I hate them) programs is written
in swing , Limewire.

I am a licensed ThinkFree office user and I don'T know what it uses but
definitely sure its not html based.

Note I am end user only, speaking only by experience. Still, on OS X,
if I see the program I look for is written in java, I select it. Buying
thinkfree back in windows days helped me a lot on OS X ;)

Have a nice day

Ilgaz Ocal